tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post1903100238150451230..comments2024-02-09T09:28:28.048-05:00Comments on BoogieDowner: The Sheridan Expressway: Cars & Buses or Homes & Open Space?Boogiedownerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08013028900628543820noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-34957892272422886882009-11-24T18:36:08.056-05:002009-11-24T18:36:08.056-05:00Dear Guywithacause,
The facts speak for themselve...Dear Guywithacause,<br /><br />The facts speak for themselves.<br /><br />But let's indulge these malicious fabrications for just a moment. If the Sheridan <i>did</i> affect <i>my</i> commute, how would that change the effects of removing the highway? <br /><br />The personal impact to me clearly wouldn't somehow mitigate the potential traffic problems in the surrounding neighborhoods, would it? There wouldn't be some type of difference in air quality if it were my car, instead of somebody else's, idling in a neighborhood intersection, would there?<br /><br />But just to set the record straight on this point (yet again), the Sheridan does not affect <i>my</i> commute; I take the D train to work.<br /><br />I guess this is just one more example of people who are more interested in fighting and tearing others down, rather than working to improve The Bronx. To have "smart growth" we need to have productive, honest discussions that allow us to make smart decisions.Jay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-1584692770106274352009-11-24T15:56:07.883-05:002009-11-24T15:56:07.883-05:00Thanks for the links. But at the end of the day i...Thanks for the links. But at the end of the day it is clear you just want to make YOUR commute more palatable, at the expense of smart, green growth.Guywithacausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11839634055229244637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-21856442474531206342009-11-23T21:25:03.771-05:002009-11-23T21:25:03.771-05:00Let me try that again:
www.urbanresidue.com/Sheri...Let me try that again:<br /><br />www.urbanresidue.com/SheridanJay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-24039878226091646262009-11-23T21:06:17.202-05:002009-11-23T21:06:17.202-05:00Just to set the record straight:
http://www.urban...Just to set the record straight:<br /><br />http://www.urbanresidue.com/Sheridan/Sheridan_traffic_n.jpg<br /><br />http://www.urbanresidue.com/Sheridan/Sheridan_traffic_s.jpg<br /><br />http://www.urbanresidue.com/Sheridan/Sheridan_traffic.movJay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-64357625308752797092009-11-18T10:35:06.462-05:002009-11-18T10:35:06.462-05:00I don't doubt BRT is possible, and it should b...I don't doubt BRT is possible, and it should be explored. However the BETTER plan is to remove this unused highway, and promote higher density, middle class housing close to the city core with greenways, parks, new/improved train service, with amenities to support the growing population.<br /><br />Why are you purposelly misinforming the public by stating their is no transit benefits or alternatives and it would make the commute worse for train passengers amd drivers alike? The FACT remains that this plan is not poorly crafted but tailored to promote mass transit, higher density housing close to the city core, and increase green space.<br /><br />-The plan calls for a NEW MetroNorth Stop in Hunts Point, new ferry service in Hunts Point, as well as expanded train and bus service to accomodate the new population. This improves train service and commutes for everyone in the city.<br /><br />-The plan calls for denser housing along the train routes closer to the city core. This serves to grow the population close to the working core of Manhattan, instead of developing far from the city and flooding highways with buses and cars. (see the traffic and horrible commutes in co-op city for those results)<br /><br />-The plan calls for adding parks to an underserved community, trees, and greenways to clean the air, and connect Manhattan's greenway (which is one of the great things about Manhattan) with the North Bronx's, so as to make it one long greenway for the entire city. How does your plan create parks? greenways? Connect the city? It does not.<br /><br />I am happy to entertain alternatives to the removal of the Sheridan, but to keep the Sheridan and hold the community hostage/undeveloped in order to create housing in far flung parts of the borough with limited/no rail service and promoting buses to flood the highways is not a reasonable alternative. <br /><br />If the community surrounding the Sheridan were already developed, then your plan would have more merit. However, we have substantial affordable space close to the city core, along established transit routes, with the ability to create substantial parks and train service, and greatly improve the community. This would have a far greater impact on the city as a whole than simply leaving the community as-is and building further out and adding buses to shuttle people on roads/highways.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15319182353959236804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-34442083351787766232009-11-17T18:15:17.355-05:002009-11-17T18:15:17.355-05:00Just to clarify matters for anyone who wants to co...Just to clarify matters for anyone who wants to consider things with an open mind:<br /><br />http://www.railway-mobility.org/docs/cop13/1COP13-D2-Paola_Betteli.pdf<br /><br />BRT is actually <i>possible</i>, can transform The Bronx and <i>reduce</i> congestion. Otherwise, we can continue to fight about a poorly created plan that offers no transit benefits or alternatives, would make the commute worse for transit passengers and drivers alike, and would actually increase congestion on our streets.Jay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-70622420588328283032009-11-17T16:45:37.114-05:002009-11-17T16:45:37.114-05:00How exactly am I tearing down another community? B...How exactly am I tearing down another community? Because I recommend tearing down an unused highway and replacing it with high density affordable housing for all working/middle class NY residents, add mass transit lines so that all NY residents can benefit, and add parks/greenways so that all NY residents can benefit? <br /><br />While you are a proponent for more development FARTHER from the city, in areas with limited rail lines, which ultimately necessitates more cars and buses on the road (go to Co-op city and see the results for yourself). And if that's not enough, you want to then put these buses (and yes many of those cars will be coming too) all over the the Cross Bronx, Deegan, Bruckner AND Sheridan as part of your master plan to decrease congestion? Really?<br /><br />By the way, I don't take any of this to heart but I am personally vested in all of these iisues. I would be happy to discuss with you wherever/whenever you like. Maybe Boogiedowner can host the first "Bronx Forum" where we can get people together to discuss changes/ideas in our borough. I think it's a cool idea. Bronx Brewery anybody???Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15319182353959236804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-10747718693871935102009-11-17T16:30:58.347-05:002009-11-17T16:30:58.347-05:00Quote:
"There is clearly potential there for ...Quote:<br />"There is clearly potential there for improvements that could <b>benefit surrounding neighborhoods</b> and the whole of The Bronx."<br /><br />Quote:<br />"work together as a whole to make <b>improvements for everyone.</b>"<br /><br />Jay - If you choose to somehow interpret these statements to mean I "could care less about what the effects may or may not be for the community surrounding the Sheridan" then continuing any discussion with you will not lead to a productive, civil discussion.<br /><br />This is not a zero-sum game. It is not necessary to tear down other communities to build up your own. It is better to work together instead of attacking one another. And we need to have critical discussions about creative ideas, because sometimes they lead to negative, unintended consequences (as this scheme would) despite the best of intentions.<br /><br />It is unfortunate you only want to fight, instead of working toward positive solutions.Jay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-59488406613872488692009-11-17T15:24:51.654-05:002009-11-17T15:24:51.654-05:00Lennin the problem with that assertion is that NOB...Lennin the problem with that assertion is that NOBODY uses the Sheridan. So removal of the Sheridan will have a negligible effect on traffic in the other communities. We already know the Sheridan is an unfinished highway that has become nothing more than a very low traffic, long exit/entry ramp...completely pointless.<br /><br />As for Jay, just as I suspected...you could care less about what the effects may or may not be for the community surrounding the Sheridan. Your questions clearly state this, as you ONLY asked about "the secondary effects elsewhere" and "make improvements for EVERYONE." Why did you not also weigh or inquire about the benefits of the community that the Sheridan plows through? Not even a question or wonder why they want it removed in the first place, or what value it would have for them huh? <br /><br />As I stated before, if you have problems with PUBLIC transporation in YOUR community, you should work towards bringing those improvements to your area instead of wasting time trying to convince people you genuinely care about "everyone." Adding MORE traffic to the Sheridan only ensures MORE POLLUTION AND TRAFFIC, not less. How does a "transportation expert" not understand that? You should be de-emphasizing highways like the Sheridan, and emphasizing train/rail systems and greenways to get cars/truck off the road and decreases congestion and pollution.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15319182353959236804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-87173684351736063612009-11-16T13:58:58.204-05:002009-11-16T13:58:58.204-05:00To answer your first question Jay, while the Sheri...To answer your first question Jay, while the Sheridan's absence would create parks for Crotona Park East/Hunts Point residents, it would come at the expense of Soundview, Morris Park, and West Farms residents. If the Sheridan is gone, all of its traffic would shift to the Bronx River Parkway, which travels through more residential areas than the Sheridan does. As for Morris Park and West Farms, they would have to either use the Parkway or use local streets which are currently congested to begin with. I'm afraid that the Bronx River and Bruckner would be even more packed if the Sheridan is gone.Lennin Reyesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2149362212571632662.post-45156629923279978652009-11-13T11:46:13.945-05:002009-11-13T11:46:13.945-05:00While there may be passionate disagreement about a...While there may be passionate disagreement about alternatives for the Sheridan, I do not think anybody wants "the Sheridan [to] remain the way it is."<br /><br />There is clearly potential there for improvements that could benefit surrounding neighborhoods and the whole of The Bronx. <br /><br />The real questions in my mind are:<br /><br />What are the secondary effects elsewhere from changes here?<br /><br />How do the changes work together as a whole to make improvements for everyone?Jay Shuffieldnoreply@blogger.com